Run with it - Patricia Wright-Alexis, Director of INcentivize Network Limited

Patricia Wright-Alexis  avid hockey player, coach  and youth fitness instructor left the corporate world to pursue her passion. She wanted to positively impact others as she had been positively impacted by hockey. She is one of the Directors of Incentivize Network Limited, the parent company of IN Sports Field Hockey academy, IN Events Caribbean and the IN Clubhouse. 

She has used her passion to fuel her purpose - positively impacting youth. She credits her grit,  the ability to plow through difficult times as a significant strength on her journey. She has overcome self-imposed limiting beliefs to reach where she is today. She credits the opportunities presented to her through her involvement in hockey - winning a sports scholarship, being captain of the hockey team as being fundamental to her personal growth and development.

She encourages persons to spend time with their thoughts to find their purpose and when they find their purpose - to run with it, let your passion fuel your purpose. Your passion energizes you to create and connect!

Transcript

Patricia Wright-Alexis/Run With It

SPEAKERS

Beverly Foster-Hinds, Patricia Wright Alexis

Beverly Foster-Hinds  00:05

Welcome to the tune into yourself podcast. This is your host, Dr. Beverly Foster-Hinds, executive and business coach. This programme is for persons who want to make decisions, which are in alignment with their true selves, and which can take them to the next level in their career, business and life. Our guest today is Patricia Wright Alexis. She is one of the directors of Incentivized Network Limited, the parent company of INsports field hockey academy, INevents Caribbean, and the  INclubhouse. She's an avid hockey player, coach and youth fitness instructor, who takes a keen interest in youth development. This inspired her to delve further into the concept of holistic child development, eventually birthing the idea for the INclubhouse - A place where kids can be exposed to a range of activities, geared towards growth and all-around development. Patricia is married to her husband and business partner, Osei Wright Alexis, and has been so for 11 years. She's a mother of two, a boy and a girl. Welcome coach Pat. How are you this morning?

Patricia Wright Alexis  01:30

Hi, good morning. I am Great. Thank you very much. And yourself? 

Beverly Foster-Hinds  01:33

I'm good. I'm good, thank you. As I was reading through what you're doing now, and where you worked previously, I wondered, what motivated you to step out to the corporate world, and to have your own business, to be an entrepreneur? 

Patricia Wright Alexis  01:59

So for me, it was just a calling, I would say. For the majority of my corporate experience, I was there doing the job. I loved what I did. I loved the challenge. I loved being a part of these big organizations, and contributing there. But I felt as though there was something missing. I felt as though I needed something more; I needed to be doing something more than just being in an office and contributing figures, you know, and contributing to growth. I wanted to, I guess, inspire and have a greater impact. And so with that, I went straight back to what impacted me, which was sports, and being a part of a team, and just the development that,  brought. So for me, I quickly - and I'll say that because I think I'm very fortunate to have realized this early in my career - very quickly switched hats and decided to go to what I believe was my purpose. 

Beverly Foster-Hinds  02:57

I mean, growing up here in Trinidad, was being an entrepreneur something that you always were interested in? 

Patricia Wright Alexis  03:07

Actually, not at all. So I remember, when I was very young, my mom would say that she would be a businesswoman. But to me businesswoman meant that I'll work in a business. But then it also meant being an accountant. So never once did I think that I'd actually own my business. Back then I felt as though owning a business wasn't even something that people encouraged. It was to go to school, get your education and then go work. So before it never entered my mind. I have to say though throughout our many interactions, the most important one being with my husband, I was able to develop a broader perspective on contribution and work and building, which then gave me the confidence to go out and build and to be an entrepreneur in Trinidad and Tobago. 

Beverly Foster-Hinds  03:54

Because it's not an easy journey. In your journey to being an entrepreneur and the business; how long have you been in business? 

Patricia Wright Alexis  04:04

2012 was when we started Incentivize network. And then the academy INsports hockey, that came about in 2017. And INclubhouse which is our recent venture, we launched that back in 2020, July of 2020. 

Beverly Foster-Hinds  04:20

In the midst of the pandemic? 

Patricia Wright Alexis  04:22

In the midst of the pandemic, yes. That was our silver lining. 

Beverly Foster-Hinds  04:27

Yeah, and that's it, you always need a silver lining. Give me some highlights, you know, on the journey to starting your own business and then to introducing  the other aspects of the business. What would you say are some highlights?

Patricia Wright Alexis  04:44

I have quite a few, actually. For me, coming from a place in Trinidad where it was difficult to think big; to think of yourself as doing and achieving more. This is just the area that I grew up in, to eventually attending one of the more prestigious schools in Trinidad and Tobago, St. Augustine Girls High School, to winning a scholarship to the states for field hockey; my vision or my dream began to grow. So the highlight for me was, one, achieving a scholarship. Because for me, growing up in a neighbourhood, you're seeing certain things, you're seeing certain patterns. And having the opportunity to attend SAGS and see things from a different perspective. I think I was fortunate enough to pick up a sport, connect with the right people, the right mentors to then form the idea of, aye, I can do more, I can be different. I can achieve and I can even get a scholarship. So for me, attaining a scholarship was the very first thing, a sports scholarship. My second highlight, I think, would be after college, I was working in NYC, New York City. Growing up as a little girl, that was always something you saw on TV: the tall buildings with, the cabs rushing by and people busy on the streets. And I remember, quite a few times coming out of the office building, we worked on 34th street, and just standing and soaking it in. I told myself you're here, you are finally here. So I distinctly remember that being a highlight. Others would be of course, returning to Trinidad and landing two jobs in a great company from WITCO BAT. It's an international company, to then being afforded the opportunity to work in the oil and gas industry with Atlantic LNG. The other highlight from there, which was, I guess, the main turning point, was then leaving or getting the courage to leave Atlantic LNG. I remember interacting with a few peers, the last week of my time there, and they came right out and they asked, who leaves Atlantic LNG? And I put my hand out, and I was ready to shake hands and I was like, meet me, Patricia Alexis, you know? I'm doing it! That was a highlight because I guess it empowered me; It gave me a confidence, and it just really pushed me to even go further into the new direction that I wanted to go. From there the highlights came fast and furious, from working with the hockey board to develop the field of hockey in non-traditional schools. Because hockey isn't a very popular sport, at least not yet, in Trinidad. You find that they normally have in it the schools located in the Port of Spain area. So bringing the sport to the east and introducing to schools like the Green Machine, St. Augustine Senior Comprehensive, and Eldo Blue, Eldorado East. To me, that was one of the major highlights, that I was able to bring what I love, grow a sport and involve more people in the facility that did so much for me. After that, in 2017, it was opening  INsport field hockey academy. To me, that was a great achievement because this has been something that was on my list for quite a while. Having graduated from college in the States and seeing how they developed the youths into sport, from starting very young at the academy level to getting them to the national level. And after that it was the newest, which would be launching the INclubhouse last year, during the pandemic.

Beverly Foster-Hinds  08:11

Right. How did you even get into hockey? 

Patricia Wright Alexis  08:15

Oh, wow. So I was introduced to the sport in form one at SAGS. I remember speaking with my physical education teacher, Cheryl Roberts, I remember her so clearly, as she entered the classroom and immediately she started to get into us, how many of you guys are in a sport? And of course, nobody raised their hands because we now entering SAGS, we just want to get good grades, you know? And she strongly advised us to pick up a sport, not just one, she said two, you know, to really get involved and develop as holistic young ladies. From there I went to the catalogue, because SAGS offered a variety of sports. And being from the background that I came from, I went immediately for the free sports. So hockey was free, and volleyball. So I tapped into these two sports. And I think hockey gave me the greatest challenge. You know, it was unique, it was different. I've never seen the sport before. So it presented a challenge that I just connected with, and from that the passion for it just grew. I found myself practicing at home with what was it, a coconut branch, and one of the young coconuts on the road, just dribbling and just trying to develop and get better. From there as well, I interacted with a few of the older players at school and found out that they were playing at the club level. So you got a chance to go, see the club players playing. I got a chance to attend a tournament. Trinidad hosted an international tournament here, two years into my hockey career. So I was able to see international players playing at this level and representing their countries, and from that the passion and dreams of progressing in the sport just grew. 

Beverly Foster-Hinds  09:51

Right because I mean, it's step by step and it was like... it sounds like an unfolding. 

Patricia Wright Alexis  09:58

That's exactly what it was, yes.

Beverly Foster-Hinds  10:01

Yeah, sounds like an unfolding, and you were open. You were open to seeing something different and believing that you could do something different, and that's as critical. In terms of two major constraints that you would have had to address along your journey; what would you say they were and how did you address them?

Patricia Wright Alexis  10:26

I would think a major one would be... they were self-imposed and I’m saying that a lot. Some of the constraints that we present are really coming from within. So my thing was my background, my history, where I came from. To me it's limited my vision at times. I felt as though, many times, during the early stages of my career in sporting industry, I was able to overcome, and not even think about my past and  how I look and if I can match up to this person etc. But as I grew, I think as I went into college, I think that some of the limiting beliefs started to come, you know? Like, who do you think you are, do you know where you came from, what are you doing here, do you deserve to be here? Again self-imposed, you know? Over the time though, you found that you got stronger with dealing with silencing the negative voice and bringing the positive voice, and just reminding yourself of how good you are, how talented, you know, where I was able to come from; what I've achieved so far. So that would be one. And the other self-imposed, I think was just being a people pleaser; having to always do things right, or think that you have to do things right. So whether to gain approval or to be liked. And again, you found this coming all the times in certain situations. So attending SAGS, again my background, the background the majority of the students attending SAGS, just didn't match up, you know? So how do I fit in, going to college, a predominantly white school - this is in Massachusetts, where the temperatures never dip or go higher than a particular point. I was one of the only Caribbean athletes for quite a while and you find it hard to fit in. So in trying to change and adjust, I found that it was slightly off balance where I turned into a people pleaser. So I had to quickly check this or get it in check to, again, just find the sense of self; find what has been consistent throughout from the start of this journey, and what you need to remind yourself to continue to be successful in the journey.

Beverly Foster-Hinds  11:40

And how do you check in with you to tame the people pleaser monster?

Patricia Wright Alexis  12:43

I did a lot of journaling. I thought it was a weird trait to have, so I would always hide that part. During SAGS I would come home and write poems, and just journal about my thoughts and my feelings, and this stayed with me throughout university. So you found in times where I felt like this, I just kind of isolated myself from the team, which in itself could put you on the radar, right? Because in team sports at the college level, you're known for just moving in a crew; you’re attending the popular parties, attending these things, and I would just remove myself to get some time to reconnect. Do I want to attend this party? Do I need to be out with my teammates, you know? I think it is just realizing that... or questioning, I want to say. Questioning is what makes us aware. And of course, that is what we do in that time that we are aware. So it's getting your thoughts out on paper and reviewing it and kind of just talking to yourself, you know? Again, I'm trying to recall how this habit was formed, but I think it just happened and it happened at the right time, right before I was entering college.

Beverly Foster-Hinds  13:51

Right, so you started journaling in high school?

Patricia Wright Alexis  13:55

In high school, correct.

Beverly Foster-Hinds  13:56

Yeah and I think now a lot of people talk about the power of journaling, and it is so important. You see what you mentioned there, and you were guided, I would want to say, intuitively. But the power of reflection and questioning that you've talked about: two powerful things. You know, so you took ownership?

Patricia Wright Alexis  14:21

Correct. I never want to give excuses, you know, give excuses to myself. Be accountable. That's one thing you learn, being part of a team: being accountable and taking leadership. Because being in some leadership roles, I was called to be accountable to take ownership and to deal with it before, of course, interacting with the team. 

Beverly Foster-Hinds  14:46

And if you don't mind me asking - you mentioned your background a few times - what particularly about your background? I mean you mentioned that as a constraint in terms of being part of the reason  for your limiting beliefs. 

Patricia Wright Alexis  15:05

For me, it was the environment that I grew up in. We weren't rich, or not even middle class, you know, back then. So certain benefits or opportunities just didn't come my way. Certain things I just wasn't able to see, because I wasn't afforded certain benefits. You know, I remember in high school with my copy book; I was aware that, you know, things were tight, mom and dad have to make ends meet here and there, so I'll try not to be too demanding. I'll say if my copybook was coming to an end at school, I will just write on the cover, or ask for a page and staple the page onto the cover. You know, just not to add to the worries that my parents would have been experiencing then. So it's just a matter of working really, really hard for what you... just live. We had a small, we call it a parlor or shop. Every sale counted towards your well-being. Added to that as well, the environment in terms of the relationship between the parents, it was wasn't always smooth. You had to grow up... it’s what people call a broken home, you know? They tried their best, and I appreciate that now, you know, because it’s a lot. It's a lot as parents to live your life, while trying to set the right tone and create the right environment for your kids. Sometime it is what it is. So just growing up in that and seeing certain struggles is what always kind of had me on the backfoot, entering certain new environments.

Beverly Foster-Hinds  16:38

And the strengths, you know, what strengths would you say have helped you so far?

Patricia Wright Alexis  16:43

I would think, because I even today I credit the grit and determination that I develop as an athlete, you know, back then, because now I see things differently, back then I would call that mental strength. It was always something that gave me an up. I could grind through this, I could do this, I could talk to myself, I could power through. I was determined, you know, because as an athlete, a student athlete especially, in college, you had to attend classes, attend 3-hour practice sessions, get to the weight room to lift your weights, check in from homeroom to make sure you put in a two-hour study time, and then still expect to have a social life, right? Just balancing that and being able to balance it and just ride through it; you're tired, but you going class. Snow falling, I'm not accustomed to snow, what am I doing here? But I have to do it, I have a scholarship to keep, you know? So I think I developed that to be a mental strength, I call it grit. Another one I think would be, I'm guessing would probably have come from the people pleasing phase, where I was just discerning. So I was able to read situations, read individuals, and just kind of adjust. This came from again, being a part of a team, and having to deal with over 16 different personalities, and being the captain of that team, having to deal with all 16 to keep unity, to ensure that you can work together both on and off the field. I felt as though I always had a discernment for people. So I've used this over the years to develop, create and interact, and even get people on board. I had to sell the sport of hockey. I connected with them in different ways to get them to buy into my vision and goals. 

Beverly Foster-Hinds  18:27

I mean, you start off with a passion for it. And that is something that, to me, people can't really... how to put it? Once you're passionate and you believe in something, that's half the battle there. And in terms of the biggest challenge that you have faced, what would you say it is? And how did you overcome it? 

Patricia Wright Alexis  18:55

I feel almost nervous to say overcoming challenges because I feel as though they just continue to come. Especially once you think you have it under control, you know? It just sends another one your way. So I see them as learning opportunities. And up to date, I've been saying that I will continue to learn; I am learning. I am capable of learning. So with the challenges, or the learning opportunities, I think the biggest one for me now, and has been for quite some time, has been balancing family life. Because I'm a wife, I'm a mother, I'm a coach, a businesswoman, an athlete. You know, trying to be an athlete still, even as I go down in age, and at the same time being a human being, you know? So you're managing and you're struggle with all this stuff. So I think it's just the balancing act to perform each role the way you need to perform it, and give it the energy and the time that you need to do that, to ensure that no one gets shortchanged. Sometimes I find that there's not enough hours. My husband and myself, we are not as fortunate to have that ready-made safety net, where you have your parents close by. My parents are in the states, his dad is also in the states and his mom passed away. Our kids didn't come with grandparents. We have had to build businesses; build ourselves as individuals, while still managing that. But my husband has been really, really great. I'm so grateful for all that he has done, because he picks up the slack when it's time for me to hop on a plane to travel, to play or to coach, you know? That has been something that we've done to counteract the challenge, where we will switch. So if he needs to pick it up, he needs to learn how to make a braid, he could do that *chuckles*. We've also found creative ways of getting support. So we would rotate the aunties, and how often we ask; it's almost like having a schedule or a calendar. Well, we asked this one last week, so let's switch and ask this one now, we'll give her a rest. And even doing play dates; play dates came in quite handy. This was before COVID, of course. But you would do a play date and have the kids go over one time by this person and then we switch and it just works out in that we so happen to take the weekend off while the kids are out. So yeah, that continues to be a process. 

Beverly Foster-Hinds  21:21

And a phrase I came across which helps me... I never liked the phrase, "work life balance" because just saying it, I start to feel like if I'm in tipping. But what I like is work life satisfaction. So you know, it kind of shifts the discussion a bit. Because there will be times that things are out of balance and that's just reality. But to me the important questions are, am I satisfied with what is happening with work? Am I satisfied with what is happening with life in general? And somehow just shifting that word from balance to satisfaction, I feel a little better. I feel as though I start off balanced, you know? That's a little mental switch I played with, myself. 

Patricia Wright Alexis  22:07

So actually, I attended a session with Dr. Sophia Mohammad and she mentioned something, I'm not quite sure what she substituted balance with, but I thinking was the same you know, make the substitute and then you look at it differently. 

Beverly Foster-Hinds  22:21

Yeah, yeah. Perception. Perception will kill you every time. So you want to always be aware of the lenses that you're looking at something through. That's critical. Now, when you are making important decisions - and you will have had to make many over the years - how would you say you make them? Do you usually follow your head, your heart, your gut, all three needs to be in alignment...? What do you do? What has worked for you? 

Patricia Wright Alexis  22:48

Yeah, I like that - what has worked. Because after much trial and error and a lot of learning and a lot of growth; I think I finally picked one that works for me you know. This to me is the guts or the instinct. We say gut or instinct, but I like to look at it from two ways. One, it's the promptings of the Holy Spirit, I mean depending on your spirituality and where you are, and then too just reading and learning more. I see it as connecting with the powers of the universe, you know? People normally say karma is out there; the universe. So I think, I have, over the years just learned to stop, quiet myself and just listen to the internal voices. Again, it could come from two, the Holy Spirit or however you want to look at it. Yeah, so I use that. I'm saying this though, not taking away the fact that every now and then I still go to someone and, in this situation, it's my husband; just to run by him the intuitions that I've had, just to place that out there. If I'm testing on people, if this is what I want to present, how would you look at it? And either fortunately or unfortunately, his views are always different. So it adds a different perspective, as you were saying, it gives me a different lens to either make some tweaks or to make a little change here and there. Again, years of trial and error between the three. The head is just strictly pros and cons, let's do this and move. The heart has been really, really emotional. You know, I'm not trying to get back to the people pleasing thing where I'll say yes, just because. But just really going on the gut with two major decisions, I think this has worked for me. One was making the decision to come back to Trinidad. I had to go with my then fiancée, now husband, as he had to return to Trinidad after working and attending school in the States, and I made a decision to come up with him. It was just the immediate prompting; this  quiet, yet definitive voice that said Yep, you're going back to Trinidad. And that was it, you know? This is having all my immediate family in the States; everybody's there. You know, and they said, "are you crazy?" But I was so sure of it because of the prompting. The other decision I remember to was the same leaving Atlantic, you know, it was a Sunday evening at a family lime in Arima and I had to leave early to come back to get to work on my computer. And it's just right there. And then this book, Purpose Driven Life, I picked it up, opened it on a page and right there was a message, and I closed the book, slammed down the laptop in this dramatic way and I said, "that's it, I am leaving this job!" It was just the promptings and listening to that voice. 

Beverly Foster-Hinds  25:05

I think it's so powerful. It's simple and very powerful. Because a lot of times, you get that. But then your head comes in and talks you out of it. 

Patricia Wright Alexis  25:07

Yes you have all the reasoning and logic, you know, everything. I could show you the numbers. But yeah, it's really to listen some more; give it an ear, give it some time, and think about it and just go. 

Beverly Foster-Hinds  26:10

Yeah. And you're very happy with the decision? 

Patricia Wright Alexis  26:14

Oh, yes. Oh, yes. I think everything just lined up to the goals, the purpose, I have to say, you know, that everything that I wanted to achieve. If you allow me: there this one time of not listening to that voice, coming back and trying to find a job, I was approached by a national coach. He came and asked me, "would you like to coach the youth team? We have a development programme, and we'd love for you to be a part of it". And I immediately said, "Yes, that's what I want to do. This would be so good!" But then head came in was like, "Listen, are you mad? You went away, got a degree, and you're coming back to coach? What would your parents say? What would everybody say? She went back to Trinidad and just lost her mind!". I ended up to listening to that voice. And of course, it took me five years to come right back to the same point, you know? Coaching at the development level; just being comfortable to call myself a coach.

Beverly Foster-Hinds  27:07

Yeah. Because that is, you know, it takes power, it takes strength, to walk in your purpose. You know, it is not like if it's... because it's about you doing what you need to do. I'm glad that you have that strength to do that. It's not easy. Now you would interact with many, many young persons, and I've seen you interacting with them. I'm very, personally, impressed with your passion, genuineness and authenticity - a word I shudder to use because I think it's so misused. But I mean, in terms of your drive for that, if it is you had to give advice - and you do give advice - to young persons that might not be sure of what part to follow, and they're bit confused; or even if they're very sure, what sort of advice would you give them? 

Patricia Wright Alexis  28:11

I'll say to find your passion. Sit with your thoughts and just find something that connects. Some people, I know, says it's difficult, saying "I don't have a passion" etc. But just sit with your thoughts, something will pop up; something that you like to do; something that you always wanted to do. The advice will be to discover your passion. Once you're able to do that and think about the reason why you're here on Earth, you know, what you were put here to fulfill. I think things will become easier. There would be lights just lighting up a runway to direct you for everything to line up, you know? So once you've found that purpose, take it and run. And I really mean, run! Don't stop to think wonder if... you know, you're allowing the brain or the mind to get there; the head to now make the decision to kind of sometimes even talk you out of it, because the purpose might not be a well walked path. You might have to just really find your niche, carve it out, and then move. I think that by running with it as well, you'll be able to get some wind in your sail to light up a plane, to get the passion. And, as you say - and I am really, really honored, thank you so very much - once you have that passion, it shows. It fuels your purpose; it fuels your mission to fulfil your purpose. It inspires you; it energizes you. I know many times I am tired, but when I hit that field and I start to interact and I start to pour out, I can go for two to three hours. So the passionate inspires and energizes you to now create and connect. And this is where I know I have to come back to the two different ways of looking at it. You know, you could connect with the limitless possibilities that just exists out there in universe by just connecting with the right people, in the right networks and being placed in the right situations and opportunities, and to just really start to grow and start to fulfil it, you know, create. Because you'll be able to now bring something into being. This thought, this passion that you have, you can actually put it out there. Whether it be getting a product, getting some followers, in this case, building something from new: a virtual extracurricular platform. Or starting your own academy, getting a niche market, or just putting a school of thought out there. I think once you get your purpose, you'll be able to connect and create. If you're looking at it from the spiritual side, I think it's just allowing the plan and the will of God for your life. As you know, this world isn't always perfect. Always perfect, but it's there for you. And just being obedient and just going with it, following it. I think that things will just start to line up. He will pave the way. He will guide you through the challenges and just help you to achieve and fulfill it. Again, I know that there are different schools of thought on passion driven versus niche market, or just finding something and creating it, but this is what has worked for me. I have seen it time and time again, where once it matches my purpose, things will just align. So I really want to encourage the youths, or anybody actually, just to stop and really assess it. Because passion is all encompassing. It's perfect. It's just right. You know, it benefits you, it benefits everybody around you, and it's lasting. I know some people say they want to leave a legacy. I truly believe that by doing your passion, fulfilling your passion, your legacy is already there, you know. So this has worked for me. So that would be my advice: find your purpose, run with it, let your passion fuel it, and things will line up. Of course, there will be challenges, but it won't be anything that you can't handle. Because again, you're following your purpose, you have a vision.

Beverly Foster-Hinds  32:04

And you have a vision... and you see that? A lot of people have no vision. And what I think is so instructive IN everything that you've said is, how along the way, you didn't say well, I'm going to go and do hockey when I go into St. Augustine Girls High School. But somebody said something that ignited something in you and you took it up. Because I'm sure there would have been other persons in the same classroom who heard exactly what she said, and did nothing. 

Patricia Wright Alexis  32:42

And that's important because I was reading this book, I forgot who wrote it, but the name of the book is 'It's Not About You'. It's very short, like four chapters. And his thing is that our life is a series of input from people. So a lot of people invest or they say things, or different experiences, and that's life. You know, I feel as though that has been my life's journey. From just people talking or speaking into my life, or just being involved or catching different experiences that has really got me to where I am, and just really developed things. So really and truly, I like what you said. You will be there. People will speak into your life. Again, it's just tuning in. But it’s getting the message; the message might not be for you, but if it's for you and it connects, then take it and use it. 

Beverly Foster-Hinds  33:34

Coach Pat, is there anything else you'd like to add? 

Patricia Wright Alexis  33:37

Nothing more than I have. Thank you so very, very much for giving me this opportunity to share, and hopefully inspire or just turn on a switch to have the audience to just think a little bit more about certain things. Thank you so very much. I love what you're doing. I've listened to a few of your podcasts before so, thank you and well done. 

Beverly Foster-Hinds  33:56

Okay, great. Can you just give us some contact information for in clubhouse, in case one of our listeners is interested? 

Patricia Wright Alexis  34:04

Sure. So the INclubhouse, you can contact us via phone at 2229292. We are on Facebook and Instagram, at our handle @inclubhouse. You can also email us at info@inclubhouse.com. 

Beverly Foster-Hinds  34:24

Thank you so much. I feel, every time I do these interviews, I feel the passion of the people that I'm interviewing, whatever it is, for their own drive, their own belief, and their own service that they offer to others. Because it is really about working with people. And as you work with people you also develop you. Thank you so much.